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earthytaurus3 77F
17402 posts
11/14/2017 9:02 pm
I'm nervous; I'm hyped ... I need to be medicated!


Come Saturday, I have to board a plane. I HATE flying. I'm a white knuckle flyer. I would like a hypodermic to put me out to get through a four hour flight. I've been around the world and back, literally, even crossed the international dateline, but flying NOW scares the he-be-geebies out of me. This time, if I want to get from point A to point B, I have no option, time wise. I am no longer confident enough to do it behind the wheel on a sole journey. Wisconsin to Arizona, H-E-L-L-O! Ain't happening.

When I lived in Wyoming many moons ago, I thought nothing of getting behind that wheel and driving seventeen/eighteen hours straight through to Wisconsin to be with my kids for a spell - all by myself without issue - no problem. It was a breeze.

Where did all that self-assurance go?? Gone .......... with the passage of time. Getting old sucks!!


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/14/2017 9:04 pm

Flying makes me feel so helpless.


Shartaun03 74F
2741 posts
11/14/2017 9:23 pm

Ha ha Earthy....I don't drive long distances either anymore or at least not by myself. I think as a woman you are taking chances driving by yourself long distance on the highways. I feel like I am a sitting duck. There are so many loonies out there now and hey we have them in Canada too!


Katie_au_lait 71F
5589 posts
11/15/2017 1:13 am

ET, my thoughts are with you...but I think you are doing exactly the right thing by flying. Might it be a good idea to take a travel pill?
Nowadays you can buy some made with ginger that don't make you drowsy, but do calm nausea and butterflies! I used to use them when I made long journeys.




Lisztomania 67M
8909 posts
11/15/2017 2:24 am

I understand your anxieties very well -- I went through a phase where I dreaded flying and would go to great lengths to avoid it. It lasted several years, and every flight was like a death and rebirth experience for me. These days I only dread the TSA at the check-in and the long trudge from one terminal to another.

Air travel plays upon 3 very common fears: claustrophobia, acrophobia (fear of heights), and fear of loss of control. Any one of the 3 can be crippling.

So you are not alone, and I extend my sympathies. Maybe you have some valium around? No need to play the hero!


Skariff2 65M
2466 posts
11/15/2017 5:38 am

I have a friend who never travels by air without his friend John Jameson.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


hermitinthecity 63M
1293 posts
11/15/2017 6:08 am

I love flying for long distance, one hour in a plane is a day's driving in a car.

Judgment Day will be interesting


traveler56 71F
9423 posts
11/15/2017 8:15 am

Hey, ET, take it easy--I too prefer driving. I didn't like the idea of flying to my last distant destination--partly because I'd already done it several years back)--but I thought of the conditions (deadlines, TSA, crowding) as an annoyance rather than a cause for fear. So take whatever relaxes you, along with our good wishes, and maybe some mental reframing of the circumstances, and have a good trip. If I could, I'd zip up to WI and drive you to AZ myself. Big hugs to you! Enjoy your visit!


Archer62 76F
3605 posts
11/15/2017 8:22 am

[SIZE 4]ET, be of good cheer, the new planes are great. I flew with Norwegian to Oslo and was amazed at the decent seating and general confort. I am far from fond of flying but just read a book and enjoyed the view when there was one. No way I could drive from here to Oslo in less than three days. Enjoy.


MrsJoe 70F
6617 posts
11/15/2017 8:24 am

I had never flown until I married Joe, and have now done it a few times........ but I still do not like it and don't think I will ever do it again.
My daughter in CA has to fly occasionally and she really gets worked up over it, every time. She talked to her doctor and he gave her a prescription for Ativan. She used to always take Benadryl because it makes her sleepy, and now she actually takes both a few minutes before boarding and is usually asleep by take off.


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earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 8:30 am

    Quoting Shartaun03:
    Ha ha Earthy....I don't drive long distances either anymore or at least not by myself. I think as a woman you are taking chances driving by yourself long distance on the highways. I feel like I am a sitting duck. There are so many loonies out there now and hey we have them in Canada too!
I know, Shar. I wouldn't tackle the road again, not at this stage of life. Those days are loooooooooong gone. The last long trip I took was via Amtrak. I loved it and enjoyed the company of a very interesting couple from Spain who helped to make that passage an exceptional experience. However, there's no good way to get from WI to AZ via Amtrak. Living here in the boonies, I even have to travel a bit over an hour to get to an airport/airline that will accommodate a direct flight so that I can avoid a short 'hop' to make a connection. Everything's against me.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 8:43 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    ET, my thoughts are with you...but I think you are doing exactly the right thing by flying. Might it be a good idea to take a travel pill?
    Nowadays you can buy some made with ginger that don't make you drowsy, but do calm nausea and butterflies! I used to use them when I made long journeys.




Hi Katie ... I feel better now. I know I can count on you to keep me in your prayers. Who luvs ya, gal! I have never had a feeling of nausea, just nerves stretched to the limit. Once I'm UP, I can unwind a bit ... then, it's coming back DOWN again that unnerves me.

My niece's hubby is a retired pilot for Southwest Airlines. He tells me, even as a pilot, it's 10 percent panic and 90 percent boredom. I can really relate to that.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 9:15 am

    Quoting Lisztomania:
    I understand your anxieties very well -- I went through a phase where I dreaded flying and would go to great lengths to avoid it. It lasted several years, and every flight was like a death and rebirth experience for me. These days I only dread the TSA at the check-in and the long trudge from one terminal to another.

    Air travel plays upon 3 very common fears: claustrophobia, acrophobia (fear of heights), and fear of loss of control. Any one of the 3 can be crippling.

    So you are not alone, and I extend my sympathies. Maybe you have some valium around? No need to play the hero!
Oh, can I relate to ALL three! I'm a mess already, and I haven't even gotten off the ground.

I can recall the times when I only had to be at the airport one hour in advance for an international flight. Now, I have to be at the airport two hours ahead for a domestic flight. I can only hope they won't target this old lady for a strip search! Horror of horrors!

That isn't even funny. When I lived in Taiwan, it was a common occurrence to hop a flight to Hong Kong from Taipei, Taiwan, for a 'shopping spree' at the duty free port known as The Ocean Terminal. It was only about a 45 minute flight, closer than I would have to drive now to a major mall. One of my colleagues - a single woman traveling alone- upon return, was subjected to a body search, including a probe of her body cavities! She was never so humiliated in her life. She felt completely violated. I don't even want to fathom that ..........

Thanks for your understanding and sympathy. I sense you KNOW exactly how I'm feeling.


hobsonschoice 69F
2923 posts
11/15/2017 9:17 am

Add to Listo's list "motion sickness"! My doctor writes me a prescription for 3 Xanax - he says you need to be conscious in case of an emergency! So once I am in the terminal I take a Dramamine and a Xanax. I always request an aisle seat so I can't look out the window (my imagination works overtime). I also play a little game with myself as we take off - I am on a bus going up a very steep hill. It works great for me. The down side is not being able to take advantage of a stiff drink. The upside is going to Disneyland and enjoying the rides while under the influence of the Dramamine and Xanax.

Have a good trip!
P.S. Don't forget your red hat....lol


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 9:36 am

    Quoting Skariff2:
    I have a friend who never travels by air without his friend John Jameson.
Skariff ... how lovely to see you grace my page. You've permitted me to have fun on your blog without punishing me or calling me names. In my latter years, I'm breaking out and experiencing the freedom of calling it as I see it ... for whatever it's worth or wherever it lands.

I have had some brief acquaintance with John. He makes me sweat ... WHOA ... in a nice way, BUT, I'll inquire of the law man, is that even legal anymore? I'm taking a 'no frills' flight, so I seriously doubt a 'call drink' will not be an option, if any drink at all. No mercy!! They will not even permit me to board with bottled water.

I really value your comment because you are a wise man. I always look to your posts. Just don't desert us!


bijou624 68F
17923 posts
11/15/2017 9:47 am

I have claustrophobia and have never been on a plane so I can understand fear of flying. I hope you will be o.k. Earthy and wishing you courage and strength. Keep us updated.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 9:49 am

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    I love flying for long distance, one hour in a plane is a day's driving in a car.
I'm taking this flight because it's the most efficient way to get from point A to point B, and, ultimately, I really relish being with family for the holiday. I wish I had an alternative way to travel - time machine to do the trick?? - but, *SIGH** ... that is a fantasy. Hopefully, I can tough it out and be back to tell of it!

I wish you a lovely Thanksgiving and hope Bamma Alabama settles with the issues on the plate.


MySeek2day 74F
4496 posts
11/15/2017 10:07 am

I understand you very well, ET! Many years ago, when flying was new to me, the fear of getting claustrophobic made me panic days before the final take-off. Now I am not looking forward to finding my ways to the gates in these giant airports . It's horror! I only book flights that take me straight from A to B, no plane changing along the way. In two weeks I will be in the air again for 9 hours. Getting older, I don't know for how much longer I will go back and forth. Somehow I have to rethink my future.
While in the air, ET, imagine the wonderful time you will have in AZ.


Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony. - M. Gandhi


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 10:38 am

    Quoting ranger1944:
    9-11 changed our way of thinking and our feeling about walking into something that's going to be off the ground for hours.
    After all that's happened, flying is still, by far, the safest and quickest way to cover 1000 miles.
    Look at this way, you'll be all out of he-be-geebees on the return trip.
Yes, it did, Ranger. We are now conditioned and fear-mongered enough to trust no one!

Oddly enough, and purely by chance, I had a brief encounter with a gentleman in the local grocery store parking lot who approached me and offered to wait until I unloaded my goods to my car to take the cart back to the store for me. (I like to think he was flirting with me! LO He commented, "Don't forget your purse."

At that time, I shared with him I had done that once in our local WalMart parking lot. I'd left my purse in the cart right out in the parking lot, and I hadn't even noticed until I arrived home that I did not have my purse! I panicked! I drove back to WalMart and found that some wonderful soul had delivered the cart to the service center with my purse still attached, untouched.

I shared with this gentleman that I always hope to find most people are good and honest. He agreed.

In a return exchange, he shared with me having found a man's wallet in a parking lot with no less than $600.00 in cash enclosed, let alone all his personal identity items. He, being a good and honest soul, looked at those identity items therein and contacted the owner. Upon exchange of the goods, he refused reward! Now, how much more proof do we need that good souls exist??

I want to trust that fundamentally, people are GOOD!


starwomyn 64F
5010 posts
11/15/2017 10:42 am

I prefer the train but will be flying to Atlanta for the holidays. Last year, I took the train with my younger son and all he did was carp and complain because of a long layover. I find flying more aggravating then scary. They charge more and give less. When the flight attendance starts announcing meals for purchase, I think "how pathetic" but it's only a few hours on the plane versus several hours by train. I don't do long distance driving because I don't want to be broken down in bum firetrUCK, South Carolina or worse.

JOY Unconfined


Shartaun03 74F
2741 posts
11/15/2017 1:14 pm

Flying is still the better way to go. Although they can cancel a flight in a minutes notice. That happened to me in September. I then had to decide if I wanted to wait several hours for the next flight they booked me on or find an alternate way to get to my destination. Luckily my relatives drove for an hour and a half to pick me up. That isn't always possible. So those kinds of situations take the joy out of traveling via flying.


Ditsy1952 65F
25 posts
11/15/2017 1:23 pm

Flying?....no thank you......If I can't get there by car, I don't need to be there,,,,,that being said, I don't drive long distances anymore alone......So, guess I'll just stay home ..


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 1:39 pm

    Quoting traveler56:
    Hey, ET, take it easy--I too prefer driving. I didn't like the idea of flying to my last distant destination--partly because I'd already done it several years back)--but I thought of the conditions (deadlines, TSA, crowding) as an annoyance rather than a cause for fear. So take whatever relaxes you, along with our good wishes, and maybe some mental reframing of the circumstances, and have a good trip. If I could, I'd zip up to WI and drive you to AZ myself. Big hugs to you! Enjoy your visit!
OK, Traveler ...I think I'll just sit here and wait for you to make good on that offer. LOL


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 1:43 pm

    Quoting Archer62:
    ET, be of good cheer, the new planes are great. I flew with Norwegian to Oslo and was amazed at the decent seating and general confort. I am far from fond of flying but just read a book and enjoyed the view when there was one. No way I could drive from here to Oslo in less than three days. Enjoy.
Archer ...thank you for showing up at my blog and sharing my dilemma. My cup runneth over. LOL


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 1:45 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    I had never flown until I married Joe, and have now done it a few times........ but I still do not like it and don't think I will ever do it again.
    My daughter in CA has to fly occasionally and she really gets worked up over it, every time. She talked to her doctor and he gave her a prescription for Ativan. She used to always take Benadryl because it makes her sleepy, and now she actually takes both a few minutes before boarding and is usually asleep by take off.

Hi MsJoe ... I think I'll bear it cold sober. I'll get through it.... I hope!


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 1:49 pm

    Quoting hobsonschoice:
    Add to Listo's list "motion sickness"! My doctor writes me a prescription for 3 Xanax - he says you need to be conscious in case of an emergency! So once I am in the terminal I take a Dramamine and a Xanax. I always request an aisle seat so I can't look out the window (my imagination works overtime). I also play a little game with myself as we take off - I am on a bus going up a very steep hill. It works great for me. The down side is not being able to take advantage of a stiff drink. The upside is going to Disneyland and enjoying the rides while under the influence of the Dramamine and Xanax.

    Have a good trip!
    P.S. Don't forget your red hat....lol
Hi, Gal ... good to SEE you! Everyone is offering me drugs. What the HE*L ?? LOL If I dared try them all, I'd be in a total stupor before I hit the ground. LOL


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 1:50 pm

    Quoting bijou624:
    I have claustrophobia and have never been on a plane so I can understand fear of flying. I hope you will be o.k. Earthy and wishing you courage and strength. Keep us updated.
If I make it, I'll be back to tell of it, Bijou. Thanks for your good wishes.


Simpleladyb2 68F
13343 posts
11/15/2017 2:59 pm

Awe, ET. nothing to fear, all will be fine. How many hours flight from Wisconsin to Phoenix? Going home to Italy is a long flight. Phoenix to New Jersey is 3 hours and a half then New Jersey is nine and a half hour.

Have a nice trip and we will meet you when you will be here.

Can't wait to meet you, lady!


"The only way to have a friend is to be one."


boogie7102 72F
47 posts
11/15/2017 3:07 pm

FYI. If you search the TSA Pre-check Application you will find a form to fill out online that will accelerate the check-in process. You will be able to go to the short line and this speeds up the entire process. Also takes away a lot of the stress. I enjoy flying but rather would fly the one with the "brass ass", otherwise known as military aircraft. But, when going commercial I always choose.....Southwest!


MsEducator00 65F
3768 posts
11/15/2017 5:07 pm

Awwww, sweetie. I feel your fear.. Seriously, I feel your fear because your fear is a mirror image of mine.

Please try to think of the reasons you're flying, to see family and meet friends. The flight will truly be worth the fear you endure, and you'll feel so proud of yourself for biting that 'fear' bullet.

One thing I started doing when flying down here to visit Ray, six months of back-and-forth flying before relocating here. I would tire myself out the day and night before my flight and deprive myself of sleep. Up all night doing something or the other, just not sleeping.

I promise you, within 15 minutes of take off, I was fast asleep!

Have fun, my friend, and make great memories! You will survive wonderfully! Hugs


aka Lyn


frenchsalsa2 71F
7235 posts
11/15/2017 5:46 pm

    Quoting ranger1944:
    9-11 changed our way of thinking and our feeling about walking into something that's going to be off the ground for hours.
    After all that's happened, flying is still, by far, the safest and quickest way to cover 1000 miles.
    Look at this way, you'll be all out of he-be-geebees on the return trip.
Ranger, how true.... so many people feel that way since 9/11. I have a girlfriend whose daughter travels the world on business, particularly to Europe & the Far East. The mom is a basket case while her daughter is away!

Personally I've only been travelling in Canada for the past few years. But I'd much rather fly than drive long distances.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 6:07 pm

    Quoting MySeek2day:
    I understand you very well, ET! Many years ago, when flying was new to me, the fear of getting claustrophobic made me panic days before the final take-off. Now I am not looking forward to finding my ways to the gates in these giant airports . It's horror! I only book flights that take me straight from A to B, no plane changing along the way. In two weeks I will be in the air again for 9 hours. Getting older, I don't know for how much longer I will go back and forth. Somehow I have to rethink my future.
    While in the air, ET, imagine the wonderful time you will have in AZ.
Airports are not my favorite places to be, either, MySeek. Not at all. My flight will be nonstop, so that's a good thing ... no unnecessary ups and downs.

Are you still going back and forth to Germany? If so, I don't envy you. I hope you're doing okay, my dear. You've been through a lot. If you celebrate Thanksgiving, I hope you have a good one. SIZE]


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 6:17 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    I had never flown until I married Joe, and have now done it a few times........ but I still do not like it and don't think I will ever do it again.
    My daughter in CA has to fly occasionally and she really gets worked up over it, every time. She talked to her doctor and he gave her a prescription for Ativan. She used to always take Benadryl because it makes her sleepy, and now she actually takes both a few minutes before boarding and is usually asleep by take off.

I might try something that makes me sleepy. I don't think I have ever ingested Benedryl, but I might try it. You know by now how I feel about meds, OTC or otherwise .... however, my fear may just be enough to make me a junkie. LOL


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 7:20 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I prefer the train but will be flying to Atlanta for the holidays. Last year, I took the train with my younger son and all he did was carp and complain because of a long layover. I find flying more aggravating then scary. They charge more and give less. When the flight attendance starts announcing meals for purchase, I think "how pathetic" but it's only a few hours on the plane versus several hours by train. I don't do long distance driving because I don't want to be broken down in bum firetrUCK, South Carolina or worse.
I prefer the train, too, but time wise it's not at all practical. It would be a very, very long haul. And I hear you with long distance driving. That's not even a consideration anymore. !

Enjoy your holiday in Atlanta.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 7:23 pm

    Quoting Ditsy1952:
    Flying?....no thank you......If I can't get there by car, I don't need to be there,,,,,that being said, I don't drive long distances anymore alone......So, guess I'll just stay home ..
I'm only doing what I feel I gotta do! I'm not liking it. That's for sure. Have a nice Thanksgiving, lady.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 7:31 pm

    Quoting Simpleladyb2:
    Awe, ET. nothing to fear, all will be fine. How many hours flight from Wisconsin to Phoenix? Going home to Italy is a long flight. Phoenix to New Jersey is 3 hours and a half then New Jersey is nine and a half hour.

    Have a nice trip and we will meet you when you will be here.

    Can't wait to meet you, lady!

I sure hope you're right. The flight is about 4 hours ... too long! I'm going to try to sleep, we'll see. I know I won't get much sleep on Friday night. I'll be too strung out. I'll be in touch when I can make arrangements with my niece in Gilbert ... hopefully. One way or another, we'll make it happen.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 7:34 pm

    Quoting boogie7102:
    FYI. If you search the TSA Pre-check Application you will find a form to fill out online that will accelerate the check-in process. You will be able to go to the short line and this speeds up the entire process. Also takes away a lot of the stress. I enjoy flying but rather would fly the one with the "brass ass", otherwise known as military aircraft. But, when going commercial I always choose.....Southwest!
I'll try to check that out, Boogie. Thanks for the tip.

Good to see you, Lady. It's been a while. Hope all is well in your world and that you enjoy a lovely holiday.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/15/2017 7:41 pm

    Quoting MsEducator00:
    Awwww, sweetie. I feel your fear.. Seriously, I feel your fear because your fear is a mirror image of mine.

    Please try to think of the reasons you're flying, to see family and meet friends. The flight will truly be worth the fear you endure, and you'll feel so proud of yourself for biting that 'fear' bullet.

    One thing I started doing when flying down here to visit Ray, six months of back-and-forth flying before relocating here. I would tire myself out the day and night before my flight and deprive myself of sleep. Up all night doing something or the other, just not sleeping.

    I promise you, within 15 minutes of take off, I was fast asleep!

    Have fun, my friend, and make great memories! You will survive wonderfully! Hugs
Hi, Sweetie Girl!

I feel pretty confident that I will not get much sleep Friday night. I'll be way too strung out. Sooooooo, that should put me in a tired state by the time I board that plane. I am indeed looking forward to spending the holiday with family. I know it will be fantastic!

Happy holiday to you and Ray. Warm hugs to you both.


MrsJoe 70F
6617 posts
11/15/2017 8:47 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    I might try something that makes me sleepy. I don't think I have ever ingested Benedryl, but I might try it. You know by now how I feel about meds, OTC or otherwise .... however, my fear may just be enough to make me a junkie. LOL
Benadryl is just an OTC antihistamine that is often used for allergies, skin rashes and itching, but it has the annoying side effect of drowsiness. In fact, many doctors used to prescribe it at bedtime as a sleeping aid.
Concentrate on the enjoyable time you are going to have when you get there, and relax.


For someone to insult me, I first have to value his/her opinion.


boogie7102 72F
47 posts
11/15/2017 8:58 pm

ET, have a wonderful holiday and enjoy the process of "getting there"! Happy Thanksgiving everyone.


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/16/2017 7:05 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Benadryl is just an OTC antihistamine that is often used for allergies, skin rashes and itching, but it has the annoying side effect of drowsiness. In fact, many doctors used to prescribe it at bedtime as a sleeping aid.
    Concentrate on the enjoyable time you are going to have when you get there, and relax.
I'm working on it .... I'll take your professional advice and pick up some Benadryl today or tomorrow, more likely, tomorrow. Today is our early time Thanksgiving/potluck so I was busy all day yesterday getting my offerings prepared: pumpkin bars and squash. It took my mind off the trip; my oven was going steady. I was so tired by the end of the day that dishes still sit here waiting for my attention!

Have a great Thanksgiving with you and yours!


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/16/2017 7:11 am

    Quoting boogie7102:
    ET, have a wonderful holiday and enjoy the process of "getting there"! Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
I'll get there, I HOPE! Enjoy a wonderful holiday yourself, gal.


frenchsalsa2 71F
7235 posts
11/16/2017 8:39 am

ET sorry but I omitted to wish you a happy holiday/travel experience... enjoy & take MsEducator's advice (lol)!!


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/16/2017 10:43 am

    Quoting frenchsalsa2:
    ET sorry but I omitted to wish you a happy holiday/travel experience... enjoy & take MsEducator's advice (lol)!!
Thanks, Salsa ... I'm working on it. Right now, I'm too busy to give it a lot of thought. Come Saturday, might be a different story. Thanks for the greeting, Gal.


FreshEmerald 59F
10973 posts
11/18/2017 9:00 pm

Why did you delete my comment?


earthytaurus3 77F
35699 posts
11/29/2017 11:59 am

What comment? I didn't delete anyone's comment????