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dusty117 73M

11/7/2018 4:51 pm

Yesterday's election brings us one step closer to Trump's resignation.

I have to give Trump credit for one thing … everyone's talking about Jeff Sessions.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/7/2018 5:28 pm

I think this is just another example of Mr. Trump's promise to drain the swamp.

Next is Mueller.
And not too soon, IMHO.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/7/2018 9:12 pm

I suspect that Sessions can write a book about his relationship with Trump. There is "Unhinged," written Omarosa Manigault Newman. He won't be the first disgruntled employee to make write a book about a former employer.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/7/2018 10:18 pm

I always thought Sessions recused himself because he hadn't been completely straight with the Senate Judiciary Committee..He was awfully evasive........I don't recall etc.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/8/2018 1:19 am

ET...I think this is why.

It's part of a BBC article this morning.

The president cannot directly fire the special counsel, whose investigation Mr Trump has repeatedly decried as a witch hunt. But Mr Sessions's replacement will have the power to fire Mr Mueller or end the inquiry.

Whatever Trump is hiding, it has to be seriously damaging to him both personally and politically. It's very telling that he fires Sessions just when Democrats gain control of the House of Representatives and step up the investigation!.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/8/2018 1:24 am

***** I meant "and will want to step up the investigation"


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/8/2018 6:47 am

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Me too.

I think we should go back to discussing recipes and doggy bathroom habits.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/8/2018 6:51 am

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My understanding is that he talked to DOJ staff and was told he was in a conflict of interest position because of his involvement in Mango's presidential campaign.

Being a experienced legal beagle, he agreed with that, and stepped aside.

Whether he did this on principle or personal reasons I will leave to others to speculate on.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/8/2018 6:53 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I suspect that Sessions can write a book about his relationship with Trump. There is "Unhinged," written Omarosa Manigault Newman. He won't be the first disgruntled employee to make write a book about a former employer.
There books by disgruntled non-employees as well.

Bob Woodward and Rick Wilson are two.

Wilson is a long time Republican strategist noted for his negative political ads.

He did a book tour that is on u-tube.
He is very persuasive.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/8/2018 7:18 am

Major Garrett, formerly of Fox news, has written a book as well.

In it he says that Sessions resigned in May of 2017, the day Mueller was appointed.

Sessions was chased down by one of Mango's minions and told to take back the resignation because it would look bad since it would be on the same day that Mueller got his job.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/8/2018 8:23 am

It's the set-up of the set-up..

First it's a distraction.. second it's set-up for the emotional response of Democrats, before Whitaker does anything.... That set-up ,means Democrats are on a "witch hunt".. before there is anything to hunt.

Which sets-up.. the big picture.....the "witch hunt" of Trump..

So whatever he does...won't be squashing the investigation.. It will be squashing the "witch hunt"
So it's what he will tell his supporters.. And Democrats will help them.. TO BELIEVE THAT LIE....


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/8/2018 8:35 am

There will always be speculation over any trump regime machinations...his swamp is murky.
For instance, it's entirely possible that trump and sessions arranged this months ago specifically, as damage limitation, in case the Democrats won the House.


LeafReport 73M

11/8/2018 9:32 am

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This dude is corrupt...you can't do anything in Iowa without coming out corrupt, racist, disgraced or with gonorrhea. Those that stay tip toe through the tulips in 50 MILLION tons of pig crap.


dusty117 73M

11/8/2018 11:02 am

Paul Ryan on Jeff Sessions recusal .. “If he himself is the subject of an investigation, of course he would. If he is not, I don’t see any purpose or reason for doing this.”

As I recall, under oath Sessions sited some "rule of law" ( but he couldn't document it ) for refusing to answer question about Trump campaign aides’ contacts with Russians.

Translation … Sessions at the time didn't know what set of lies Trump plans on telling if and when subpoenaed.

Whitaker needs recuse himself too. Google his name … there's plenty of evidence showing he's "connected" to the Trump's campaign ... that's reason enough to call for his recusal.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/8/2018 12:11 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    This dude is corrupt...you can't do anything in Iowa without coming out corrupt, racist, disgraced or with gonorrhea. Those that stay tip toe through the tulips in 50 MILLION tons of pig crap.
Let's be reasonable..

The reaction is exactly the reaction Trump wants.

Mueller's not going to get fired......He's going to get controlled.. at least that will be the attempt.

We won't be told what that control is ......such as finance and preventing any more American indictments...

i would venture to guess in the firing...... Whitaker's not that stupid to hang his neck out that far..No Statute of Limitations for that obstruction.

Anyway.... number one on this list is to not have Mueller's report made public..Whitaker can do that

Now what 's going to happen... After two more months of nothing.. After the last three weeks of nothing.....Three months of nothing..
Then the Democrats take the House, and three month of nothing becomes something. So the Democrats will make it happen.. and making it happen means it's a Democrat "witch hunt".

Right now... we got to hope Mueller's got a plan.... that Rosenstein can get behind..without it.. It's a stalemate. A stalemate is what Trump wants... It is the best that Trump can do.

I know it's both scary and a benefit.. But little so they say about the FACT.. That Mueller is a lifelong REPUBLICAN

As crazy as this may sound.. As unlikely as it may seem..(I'm sure Trump is counting on it) As the proof we have had so far....As unsinkable as Mueller is to leaks.. Whitaker maybe steering this Titanic into an iceberg....So when we see the first leak, it means that's Mueller's plan is to sink Whitaker's boat. To show US in the next two months, a shit storm of stuff has happened.

Now... alternate plan would be to have Mueller fired for the leaks... But Trump is such an egomaniac.. He certainly will underestimate Mueller.. Mueller ain't NO Comey!..You got to Play by Mueller's rules... I know I wouldn't want to be the one to piss Mueller off..those silent types may seem vulnerable.. but most of them are deadly if you ever get exposed to their venom... And I know for certain... people who don't have voice.. will have other people's ears.


LeafReport 73M

11/8/2018 6:46 pm

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I don't blame you for wanting to stop talking about the massive failures of the republican party and the latest episode of obstruction of justice from Trump. But let's move on in good will. I like you Deborah.

So tell me...just to begin a conversation. Can you name 3 movies that you hold dear for one reason or another? It always tell a story about who we are as people in a small way.


LeafReport 73M

11/8/2018 6:55 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I always thought Sessions recused himself because he hadn't been completely straight with the Senate Judiciary Committee..He was awfully evasive........I don't recall etc.
Yep....that is exactly my view too. I was just going to say something along these lines. He was smart enough to know that answering the way he did marginalized the testimony of others to the Grand Jury. I have my doubts that he would have been stupid enough to go along with the Russian collusion...but I also think he was enough of a wimp to turn a blind eye to something others were doing. Do not recall was a political cleansing of his culpability...annoying but effective. He's betting his reputation is enough to protect him from the Grand Jury testimony of others. Will he get away with it? He might.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/8/2018 8:19 pm

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The popular vote doesn't mean jack. The electoral voting system was designed so that a diversity of people can have a voice. The rural farmer as well as the city dweller. Folks in rural America supported Trump because the Status Quo was not working for them. It has nothing to do with POTUS adulation, it has to do with who is the best person for the job and who can get it done.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/9/2018 7:06 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    The popular vote doesn't mean jack. The electoral voting system was designed so that a diversity of people can have a voice. The rural farmer as well as the city dweller. Folks in rural America supported Trump because the Status Quo was not working for them. It has nothing to do with POTUS adulation, it has to do with who is the best person for the job and who can get it done.
Oh dear......I think you actually believe that.....


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/9/2018 10:45 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Oh dear......I think you actually believe that.....
I understand United State politics better some of the alleged Canadians

Abracadabra


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/10/2018 7:00 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I understand United State politics better some of the alleged Canadians
The electoral system was put in place to prevent mob rule.

The Founding Fathers never anticipated that the chief mobster would ever win.