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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
10/14/2018 3:40 am
Trump is Always Right, because he's got the POWER


I always am trying to explain what the 'outcome" mentality is..

It's putting the cart before the ..

Yesterday..Trump said.. it was right to separate from parents .. because parents were crossing the border with their .. to make it easier for them..
And if you separate them...Then that deterrent would mean.. they wouldn't think about coming across.

Most people, like big, would think it has to do with them being "illegal" and Hispanic..That justifies doing it.
But not to Trump.. it's a means to an end... just like a wall is a deterrent.
Separating families has no meaning... except Trump's desired "outcome' as a deterrent.
Trump has no moral sense about what he's doing.. it doesn't matter, as long as he gets his desired outcome..

This is what I call "outcome" oriented....The What of it matters.. the HOW doesn't matter.. and if one has the Power, one has the Right, to make the HOW not matter..

Trump failures in life.. and there has been plenty.... has always occurred for the same reason.. Getting caught in the HOW and not the what....Trump learned that with power... he has greater control over the how......Trump sought the Presidency, the greatest power, so that he could do, whatever he needed to do to get his desired outcome..
That was the problem for him .. in the Mueller investigation.... Trump's desired outcome was to win the election... He wins.. and then Mueller is going to question the How he did it... No, no , no.. you can't question the How from someone.. who's got ALL that Power...

Lord Acton's quote... "Power tends to corrupt.. but absolute power corrupts absolutely"... is personified in Trump....... Because the corruption is not in the WHAT.... it's in the HOW.

My Gosh.. i write all this stuff... like it's obvious,, because it is... and then can't understand how people don't understand it... Then I realize.. they don't understand because.. they don't WANT to believe it's true...because if they had the power.. they would do the same thing Trump does.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/14/2018 3:45 am

For most of Us...our morals control our actions in achieving a desire result..
But many times our morals cause us NOT to achieve a desire result....We give up the result to maintain our morals..

In the Trumpian world.. That's just stupid
Why would anybody... give up a desired result for some idealistic bullshit?...


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/14/2018 4:09 am

Many people who knew Trump before.. think he's changed...That his goals were good.. his mindset was to achieve those goals...within the scope of those persons own morals... That Trump knew the "how " mattered. He let them believe it , because he didn't have the power...,YET. But the writing was on the wall,, and those people got fooled not to read it.
Things did change.. When the HOW no longer matters to Trump, all the things Trump has done...that they see as out of character.. is about Power.
Now, any method, he now chooses, is the right method.. all the stuff he does.. has no right or wrong...It's ALL outcome oriented.
What changed him is....power tends to corrupt.. but if you think you been given the Right of Absolute Power.. then you are absolutely corrupted.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/14/2018 10:29 am

Now many of You don't have the power to get everything you want.. To change the outcome.....but the real reason you can't ....is your morals and societies morals... you abide by them. It's a trade off....You lose some of you desired outcome.. to hold on to your morals....
And still many other, who don't have the power.. don't do it... just because they don't want to get caught by the people who do have the power.

But if you had the power... So you didn't get caught.
What would you do, if you had the power... Would "HOW" you do it matter?

Trump's thinks he got the power...so he would tell you... you're an idiot to lose your outcome to maintains some ridiculous ideals.
Every single Lie Trump tells.. he THINKS of as outcome oriented.. the outcome means more that the Lie... Those that support him AGREE..

Kavanaugh is created from the same fricken mold...outcome oriented.. The law only applies to Kavanaugh desired outcome.. He will make the Law bend to that will.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/14/2018 6:53 pm

That's right......just today there are several republicans here saying exactly that......Espousing Trump's honesty......because he's the president......


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
10/15/2018 3:49 am

You're right Jiminy. If those people had any morals, America would still be respected by the rest of the world...even those other countries with no morals.

When morals go, honesty drowns and Power becomes God.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/15/2018 6:48 am

Of course I'm in the middle here...
mainly because I don't choose between Liberal and Conservative ideologies...Although conservative here would disagree. As Liberal indirectly attack my fiscal Freedom.. When Conservatives directly attack my moral freedom

I have said I'm morally more aligned with Liberals and fiscally more aligned with Conservatives.
The WHAT of morals and financial matters doesn't matter.. It's about how each side expresses those ideas.. it's HOW each side goes about doing it.....Moral FREEDOM is expressed Liberally....Fiscal Freedom is expressed Conservatively.... The specifics or the desired result don't matter to me.....But the HOW it is expressed does.. I have go to the base of it, because otherwise, each side has a poor way of expressing it. By confusing it, overlapping it, misapplying it, denying it, and controlling it....

My FREEDOM is important to me.. Liberals protect my moral Freedom and Conservative protect my fiscal freedom... And conversely, each wants to TAKE the others and my Freedom away, instead of finding a balance, that I could "live' with

The How matters to me ... Not the What.

So I hate Trump because he feeds the beast.. of the WHAT determining the HOW.. And with it....the destruction of MY FREEDOM, your freedom, and the destruction of this country... No matter who wins the "WHAT" of it...

I KNOW Trump is going to lose this....but what will that leave... A Liberal who, because of Trump, Will think their POWER is right and will think the WHAT justifies the HOW.. THAT is my fear. Because I can lose MY FREEDOM either way..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/15/2018 8:53 am

Well, in a way... I agree..but then again I disagree too..

I disagree about AMERICA.....I disagree in the "labeling"....not in
the fact.... that America is NOW disrespected....but that disrespect, from a logical standpoint is unfounded, prejudiced, irrational, and in many ways propaganda..

Countries have three choices..... The "autocracy" having no morals.. The self-governing that is satisfied with it's morals.....Or a country willing to battle out the two sides.. America has not decided it's fate.. but is a "battle ground" to determine it.
America is truly the only country in the world...That is a "testing ground"....We have always had that strength.. to become that ONE.
They call America the "great experiment" ... Well the people's view is about that experiment..The choice that it can be completed.. and the choice that it is a never ending process..
America is the only country that washes it's "dirty laundry"... in front of the world. For the rest of the world the only things that matters is the dirty we get on ourselves... The fact we wash it means nothing.. America reveal and gets out the dirt....America is the "laundromat" of the world.
To the moral countries..which understand how....Power tend to corrupt.. and Absolutely Power corrupts absolutely..
Comparing that to the Tenets of Trump..
That Power tends to corrupt.... but absolute power negates corruption.
So with this... we "battle" Trump.. the battle of the moral against the amoral...

For the "Moral Right"..the unbelievable hypocrisy of bringing a God.. "down to earth".. With that...... they deny the Commandments, deny the Constitution, and deny our Democracy.. .....because, according to some people, the 'idealistic" Democracy, is not TRUE.. The moral Right SUPPORTS our "REPUBLIC" and so it can deny our "idealistic and moral" Democracy.. That "idealistic and moral" Democracy is an impossibility to achieve......But we'll be damned.. if we allow someone, Foreign or Domestic, to tell us it's an impossible.. and we should no longer TRY.

So the truth is.....WE take on our leadership role.. and battle it....So YOU don't have to.. It's how much FAITH we have in each other...That the end result will be worth the battle, both revealing and true.. That Right overcomes Might... That America hasn't lost America...God.. I got to believe....because if it's all bullcrap. NOTHING I believe is true..