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Maisie2013 66F
29957 posts
11/15/2017 7:36 am
STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW


I wonder if it ever occurred to the late night comedians, sports reporters , or award show hosts and those they give the awards to, that people are not watching to hear their political opinion.
I wonder if anyone has said to themselves , " I need to learn about healthcare policy. Let me turn on Jimmy Kimmel . "
Dennis Miller had it right when he said he does not get his political analysis from musicians, anymore than he gets his music from politicians.

Did anyone turn on ESPN , not to see sports scores and analysis, but to get the latest Colin Kaepernick news? Not to see who won the game, but to see who was kneeling?
But ESPN recently justified its obsession with politics. Their reason? Trump criticized the NFL for kneeling during the anthem.

"When Donald Trump won the election and Colin Kaepernick began kneeling in protest during the national anthem, it became impossible. When President Trump started dividing Americans in increasingly hideous ways, it became truly impossible. And when Trump declared war on the NFL recently, it became inconceivable. ESPN couldn’t ignore race and politics because NOBODY could ignore race and politics. Especially when the president was blowing his own version of a dog whistle. "

Except that is a lie. He first sat his butt down BEFORE Trump was President, back when Hillary was a shoo-in.

Aug. 14 and Aug. 20 2017 — Kaepernick goes unnoticed while sitting during the anthem
Kaepernick made headlines when he sat during the 49ers third preseason game, but he also sat during the first two games, according to Mike Garafolo of NFL Network. Kaepernick wasn’t in uniform and didn’t play during the first two games.
Kaepernick told the media after the game he sat because of the oppression of people of color and ongoing issues with police brutality.
He never once mentioned Trump.

This is the level of dishonesty in those who are not in the business of political punditry, suddenly considering themselves the mouthpiece for some cause.
Suddenly Jimmy Kimmel is a health care policy expert. Meryl Streep is an election analyst. Bruce Springsteen is the spokesman for The Resistance.
They are being paid to deliver a service- jokes, football, or music. When anyone of them spends time with their political tirades, they are taking time from what they are being PAID to do.
Perhaps celebrities forget, whether it be in sports, TV or Hollywood, are more or less employees. Their bosses are the Public who pay to see the games, watch the show, or see the movie.
You do not thumb your nose at half your potential customers because you disagree with them politically. The NFL is reaping the results of their protests by people not coming to games, and turning on college ball instead of them.

When you break it down , this sudden desire to weigh in on all things Trump by the people I mentioned, isn't a lot different than the McDonald's cashier not handing over your Big Mac until you listen to their opinion on gay marriage, tax reform or Sudanese immigration policy.

I wonder how quickly they all would condemn Congress for not passing legislation, but deciding to give sports scores on the Senate floor.
And I sure don't want Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to break into a rendition of " Another One Bites the Dust ", to tell us they are voting against a Republican bill.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 7:40 am

Even scarier would be Mitch McConnell in an interpretive dance about Obamacare repeal. Careful of that hip, Mitch.


dinty3 74M  
3017 posts
11/15/2017 9:15 am

That hit the nail right on the head Maisie. These donkydonks have a right to be nervous when they try to refute the honest facts.
Entertainers should stick to their profession of entertainment be it acting, singing, sports, etc.


Unsafe_Sax_54 63M
1144 posts
11/15/2017 9:36 am

Kinda like doctors and lawyers. Having achieved some level of success at their professions, they think they can do anything.

Lot of smoking holes that used to be small planes flown by doctors and lawyers.


Fossil_Fetcher 69M
8730 posts
11/15/2017 10:22 am

The political jokes on late-night did not begin with Kimmel or any of the current hosts of liberal network infomercials. Jay Leno and Johnny Carson both made a living off of political humor. The difference was that Carson and Leno made fun of both sides.

As for "Kneelgate," you are wasting your time trying to tell the likes of Jiminy, Leafy or any of the current versions of Don that the protests by NFL players started before Trump became President. Jumping on the bandwagon is a way to boost fading careers in not just sports, but also in the political theater. It doesn't matter if you are a near-senile Representative from California or a Senator from Arizona, you can try to make yourself relevant again by joining the cause-du-jour.

Fossil


Facies liberals meum sanguinem fervere


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 10:37 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    The political jokes on late-night did not begin with Kimmel or any of the current hosts of liberal network infomercials. Jay Leno and Johnny Carson both made a living off of political humor. The difference was that Carson and Leno made fun of both sides.

    As for "Kneelgate," you are wasting your time trying to tell the likes of Jiminy, Leafy or any of the current versions of Don that the protests by NFL players started before Trump became President. Jumping on the bandwagon is a way to boost fading careers in not just sports, but also in the political theater. It doesn't matter if you are a near-senile Representative from California or a Senator from Arizona, you can try to make yourself relevant again by joining the cause-du-jour.

    Fossil

Not only did they make fun of both sides, for the most part it was genuinely funny. Today, it's not really joking, they are dead serious attacks on the President. They are not really even veiled as a joke, but are venous attacks. Look at nasty words some use, like Colbert saying Trump was Putin's 'C*ck holster. That is so far over the top, he should have been fired in my view.


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 10:41 am

I meant 'thinly veiled' and venous should have read venomous


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 10:42 am

You're right about that.....people should stick to what they know.......I mean,
.....a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 11:29 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You're right about that.....people should stick to what they know.......I mean,
    .....a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?
like you don't pontificate about stuff you know nothing about, except from Liberal sources. You don't even live in America yet you spout off about all manner of American politics. Hypocrite


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 2:40 pm

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    like you don't pontificate about stuff you know nothing about, except from Liberal sources. You don't even live in America yet you spout off about all manner of American politics. Hypocrite
My response to this blog was to demonstrate to Maisie that her premise for this blog "Stick To What You Know" can be applied to her as much as it applies to those she is complaining about. People can have many interests and curiosities and pursue and obtain knowledge in greatly divergent areas. Some people are more curious than others and educate themselves in many different subjects.

I'm merely pointing out to Maisie that she is breaking her own rules......which she does on a regular basis..........But you missed it


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 2:59 pm

I did not miss it, but I was incensed that you are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. But let me just say that Maisie is quite informed of the things she posts. Perhaps not an expert, but at the least, she is well read on the subject


TxJW2 75M
2259 posts
11/15/2017 4:34 pm

So why are we over the hill married people on a (dating site) talking politics?????????????????????????????????????? LOL
Sort of like a comedian telling jokes at a funeral or a virgin working in a brothel. LOL
Party On!


_JKH54_ 63M
14230 posts
11/15/2017 4:41 pm

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    Not only did they make fun of both sides, for the most part it was genuinely funny. Today, it's not really joking, they are dead serious attacks on the President. They are not really even veiled as a joke, but are venous attacks. Look at nasty words some use, like Colbert saying Trump was Putin's 'C*ck holster. That is so far over the top, he should have been fired in my view.
You're absolutely right.

~ ~


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 5:14 pm

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    I did not miss it, but I was incensed that you are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. But let me just say that Maisie is quite informed of the things she posts. Perhaps not an expert, but at the least, she is well read on the subject
You missed it again.......I don't believe what Maisie believes, I don't think that Maisie shouldn't have a political opinion or doesn't have knowledge based on how she makes a living......I'm just turning Maisie's own opinion, based on what she says in this blog around on her to show her what a ridiculous premise she makes when she assumes that people don't have knowledge or deserve to voice their opinion based on what they do for a living........What the hell's the matter with you?.........


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 5:17 pm

    Quoting _JKH54_:
    You're absolutely right.
Wow, you and Dan sure do make a fine pair.....of nincompoops.


Lisztomania 67M
8909 posts
11/15/2017 5:25 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You're right about that.....people should stick to what they know.......I mean,
    .....a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?
Still an assh*le, I see.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 5:42 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    My response to this blog was to demonstrate to Maisie that her premise for this blog "Stick To What You Know" can be applied to her as much as it applies to those she is complaining about. People can have many interests and curiosities and pursue and obtain knowledge in greatly divergent areas. Some people are more curious than others and educate themselves in many different subjects.

    I'm merely pointing out to Maisie that she is breaking her own rules......which she does on a regular basis..........But you missed it
When I am being PAID to work, I WORK. I do not stop helping a customer, and say- " Sorry, I'll go get your product for you, but first you have to hear my plan on tax reform. "

I guess you think the dentist is only allowed to talk about teeth, a politician is not allowed to discuss opera, or a banker is not allowed to express any opinions except about money.

What I write in my recliner, has NOTHING to do with my job. Football , sports reporting, and entertainment is their job.
They are being paid to play football- so play football.

I honestly thought everyone was smart enough to understand this. I guess I was wrong.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 5:45 pm

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    like you don't pontificate about stuff you know nothing about, except from Liberal sources. You don't even live in America yet you spout off about all manner of American politics. Hypocrite
Not only that, but the entire point of my blog was people in the entertainment business should do their jobs and entertain. Not fill what should be a comedy show, or a concert with politics, or use your football position to protest the National Anthem.

How this relates to an ordinary person expressing their opinion for recreation is beyond me.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 5:49 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You missed it again.......I don't believe what Maisie believes, I don't think that Maisie shouldn't have a political opinion or doesn't have knowledge based on how she makes a living......I'm just turning Maisie's own opinion, based on what she says in this blog around on her to show her what a ridiculous premise she makes when she assumes that people don't have knowledge or deserve to voice their opinion based on what they do for a living........What the hell's the matter with you?.........
I did NOT say you had to know a damn thing to have an opinion. What I said, if you were not choosing to be obtuse, was people do not turn a comedian to hear about health care policy, or watch a sports program to hear social commentary.

People should do what they are paid to do. And BTW- my company is not paying me to sit here and blog.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 5:53 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    The political jokes on late-night did not begin with Kimmel or any of the current hosts of liberal network infomercials. Jay Leno and Johnny Carson both made a living off of political humor. The difference was that Carson and Leno made fun of both sides.

    As for "Kneelgate," you are wasting your time trying to tell the likes of Jiminy, Leafy or any of the current versions of Don that the protests by NFL players started before Trump became President. Jumping on the bandwagon is a way to boost fading careers in not just sports, but also in the political theater. It doesn't matter if you are a near-senile Representative from California or a Senator from Arizona, you can try to make yourself relevant again by joining the cause-du-jour.

    Fossil

True- but we expect the Usual Suspects who hate Trump to jump on the bandwagon, but one would think celebrities and ball players would learn there is a time and place for opinion.

I do notice one thing here, though. Everyone , but Lulu, understood my blog.
I thought she was so understanding of " nuance ".


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 6:02 pm

    Quoting dinty3:
    That hit the nail right on the head Maisie. These donkydonks have a right to be nervous when they try to refute the honest facts.
    Entertainers should stick to their profession of entertainment be it acting, singing, sports, etc.
I wonder how everyone would react , if in the middle of Madam Butterfly, Caruso had stopped and gave us his opinion of Roosevelt and the accusations of corruption leveled at him over the Panama Canal construction contracts.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/15/2017 6:04 pm

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    Not only did they make fun of both sides, for the most part it was genuinely funny. Today, it's not really joking, they are dead serious attacks on the President. They are not really even veiled as a joke, but are venous attacks. Look at nasty words some use, like Colbert saying Trump was Putin's 'C*ck holster. That is so far over the top, he should have been fired in my view.
Yes, it has gotten mean, instead of good natured ribbing. Just look at SNL. They didn't make fun of Obama , and all the other people who played Presidents did it well, but not nastily.


Lisztomania 67M
8909 posts
11/15/2017 6:32 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    I wonder how everyone would react , if in the middle of Madam Butterfly, Caruso had stopped and gave us his opinion of Roosevelt and the accusations of corruption leveled at him over the Panama Canal construction contracts.
Speaking of Butterfly, there is a passage in the first act where a few measures of the "Star-Spangled Banner" are played while Sharpless and Pinkerton (2 Americans) toast each other and sing "America Forever." No tenor or baritone has ever taken a knee there.


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 7:32 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    I did NOT say you had to know a damn thing to have an opinion. What I said, if you were not choosing to be obtuse, was people do not turn a comedian to hear about health care policy, or watch a sports program to hear social commentary.

    People should do what they are paid to do. And BTW- my company is not paying me to sit here and blog.

Yes, people do watch comedians who do political commentary. There is no rule, except in your narrow mind that politics can't be funny.......Political comedy has a long history....it's not as if it's a modern phenomena......Those political comedians are being paid for what they do.....Hmmm wonder why there is no pro-Republican political comedy..........And those football players that are taking a knee still play football just as well as those who stand.......before 2009, they stayed in the locker room while the National Anthem played........until the NFL got paid for patriotic displays. Paid millions of taxpayer dollars by the Department of Defence and the National Guard. ........The football players do what they are paid to do.....they play football....or maybe you think they should participate in patriotic displays because they are paid to do that.......

It seems rather obtuse of you to insist that politics and comedy should exist in separate universes. You say that comedians should do what they are paid to do,
yet you ignore the obvious reality that they are being paid to do exactly what they are doing.......Do you actually think that John Stuart or Bill Maher would have lasted that long if they didn't have an appreciative audience........

It is rather glaring that all the comedians in the genre are Lefties.........why is that do you think?.....Probably because they would be breaking Maisie's rules of separation.


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 7:37 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    I wonder how everyone would react , if in the middle of Madam Butterfly, Caruso had stopped and gave us his opinion of Roosevelt and the accusations of corruption leveled at him over the Panama Canal construction contracts.
Seriousl?......You are comparing Caruso in Madame Butterfly to SNL?......Methinks you have genre confusion......


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 7:43 pm

OK....I think I have it now........Maisie doesn't find it entertaining, therefore she must find some way, no matter how twisted and obtuse, to prove that the whole genre is wrong, or bad, or , umm......just WRONG dammit.......In other words, The Queen is NOT amused.......


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/15/2017 7:45 pm

You read this blog and you think I'm the azzhole?.......


_JKH54_ 63M
14230 posts
11/15/2017 7:51 pm

Why are you allowing that hateful woman to attack your commenters ? That's all she does. I won't be back.

~ ~


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 8:28 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You read this blog and you think I'm the azzhole?.......
absolutely, you are the number one azzhole commenting on this blog


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/15/2017 8:30 pm

    Quoting _JKH54_:
    Why are you allowing that hateful woman to attack your commenters ? That's all she does. I won't be back.
I usually won't comment when the harpies are out and about, but she just gets my goat. I come to Maisie and Liszt's blogs, and usually go away without commenting because of the vicious attacks, the attacks that attack the blogger and not the message


boogie7102 72F
47 posts
11/15/2017 8:53 pm

    Quoting _JKH54_:
    Why are you allowing that hateful woman to attack your commenters ? That's all she does. I won't be back.
A very valid point. It goes both ways. Why do they like to attack one another?


starwomyn 64F
5010 posts
11/15/2017 9:36 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You're right about that.....people should stick to what they know.......I mean,
    .....a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?
I am also a retired Wal-Mart retail worker/cashier. I have been to Washington DC as an activist and lobbyist. I have talked to Senators and Congressional Representatives about health care, prison reform, the drug problem in West Virginia, prison sentencing reform, environmental issues and foreign affairs. The prospective from a working class constituent is valuable as someone from a more "lofty" station in life. Our contribution to society is just as valuable if not more so than some of the more supercilious foreigners.

JOY Unconfined


jiminycricket1 67M
8159 posts
11/16/2017 3:09 am

I'm confused..

Is your blog about . People who don't know, shouldn't speak or people who don't know shouldn't be listened to?

He shouldn't talk about because he's a... (fill in the blank)
Or you shouldn't listen to him, because he's a... (fill in the blank)

Or is it both?

Now that we understand who shouldn't speak and who shouldn't be listened to.
what I would like to know is "who should be"

Better yet... who do YOU think should speak, and who do YOU listen to.?

Like Donald Trump, or Barrack Obama?
Like McConnel, or Pelosi?
Like Dennis Miller or Jimmy Kimmel?
Like Roy Moore, or Harvey Weinstien?
Like Hannity or Maddow?

Massie...... who do You listen to?


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 4:39 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Seriousl?......You are comparing Caruso in Madame Butterfly to SNL?......Methinks you have genre confusion......
No you are comparing. I really hate when I have to explain simple things.
You see, Caruso was being PAID to sing and act. Instead of singing and acting , he waxed political.

I guess you were so into what YOU were saying, you lost the thread. I usually forgive senior moments.
Stop making yourself look silly.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 4:47 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Yes, people do watch comedians who do political commentary. There is no rule, except in your narrow mind that politics can't be funny.......Political comedy has a long history....it's not as if it's a modern phenomena......Those political comedians are being paid for what they do.....Hmmm wonder why there is no pro-Republican political comedy..........And those football players that are taking a knee still play football just as well as those who stand.......before 2009, they stayed in the locker room while the National Anthem played........until the NFL got paid for patriotic displays. Paid millions of taxpayer dollars by the Department of Defence and the National Guard. ........The football players do what they are paid to do.....they play football....or maybe you think they should participate in patriotic displays because they are paid to do that.......

    It seems rather obtuse of you to insist that politics and comedy should exist in separate universes. You say that comedians should do what they are paid to do,
    yet you ignore the obvious reality that they are being paid to do exactly what they are doing.......Do you actually think that John Stuart or Bill Maher would have lasted that long if they didn't have an appreciative audience........

    It is rather glaring that all the comedians in the genre are Lefties.........why is that do you think?.....Probably because they would be breaking Maisie's rules of separation.
There is a vast difference between Dan Akroyd 's Nixon imitations , Will Rogers making fun of Congress, and Stephen Colbert making a filthy remark. However, I will give that to someone's idea of comedy.
No, I am talking about instead of talking sports, they talk anti- Trump. Jimmy Kimmel is not a health care expert, and nobody wonders if they go to the protest at the football stadium, if they will throw in a little football. .


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 4:50 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I am also a retired Wal-Mart retail worker/cashier. I have been to Washington DC as an activist and lobbyist. I have talked to Senators and Congressional Representatives about health care, prison reform, the drug problem in West Virginia, prison sentencing reform, environmental issues and foreign affairs. The prospective from a working class constituent is valuable as someone from a more "lofty" station in life. Our contribution to society is just as valuable if not more so than some of the more supercilious foreigners.
I applaud your activism. You have chosen the correct forum and the correct means.
You would not stop in the middle of, for example, a paid choir concert to discuss those issues. That was the entire point of my blog, and I see Lulu missed it.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 4:58 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I'm confused..

    Is your blog about . People who don't know, shouldn't speak or people who don't know shouldn't be listened to?

    He shouldn't talk about because he's a... (fill in the blank)
    Or you shouldn't listen to him, because he's a... (fill in the blank)

    Or is it both?

    Now that we understand who shouldn't speak and who shouldn't be listened to.
    what I would like to know is "who should be"

    Better yet... who do YOU think should speak, and who do YOU listen to.?

    Like Donald Trump, or Barrack Obama?
    Like McConnel, or Pelosi?
    Like Dennis Miller or Jimmy Kimmel?
    Like Roy Moore, or Harvey Weinstien?
    Like Hannity or Maddow?

    Massie...... who do You listen to?
Go sit in the Lulu corner with those who want to be obtuse.

Do you watch Maddow or Hannity to watch them sing and dance, or do you want to hear opinion journalism?

Do you want your taxpayer dollars spent on Shakespeare plays performed by Members of Congress, instead of them working on legislation ?

Would you have wanted Obama to spend most of his time giving advice to NBA coaches, or being President ?
Every President has been criticized for playing golf. Not since Ike, has the media spent so much time on a President's golf game as they have on Trump's.
Why? Other than just having something to criticize, they think he should be doing President tasks, not playing golf. They demonstrate my point.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 5:11 am

    Quoting boogie7102:
    A very valid point. It goes both ways. Why do they like to attack one another?
No- she did not comment on the substance, but her first comment was a personal attack. It always is.
She always does her best to twist my blogs into something they are not.
This blog was about time and place for protest. But she first turns it into deliberately misinterpreting my title, then proceeds with the idea I am attacking content, not merely forum and venue.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 5:18 am

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    I usually won't comment when the harpies are out and about, but she just gets my goat. I come to Maisie and Liszt's blogs, and usually go away without commenting because of the vicious attacks, the attacks that attack the blogger and not the message
Please comment, Dan. Those who engage in personal attacks, instead of discussing the substance, demonstrate how they have no disagreement worth expressing. They are the Maxine Waters of blog-land.
They are the typing equivalent of the 2 year old who throws a temper tantrum when something occurs they don't like.
It just makes my point all the stronger. If I said " My opponents have no logical argument against X ". and she comments " Well that is because you are stupid ". She just made my point.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 5:25 am

    Quoting DanDee1952:
    like you don't pontificate about stuff you know nothing about, except from Liberal sources. You don't even live in America yet you spout off about all manner of American politics. Hypocrite
And the less she and other of our lovely Canadian ladies know, the more vehemently they express it. Maggie wanted to know why Trump hasn't pass more laws. The cheery Queen of England quotes false gun stats, cherry picked to make a political point by those who conducted a study. We cant fault her for the study, but we can for not being more analytical of data.
I always have to find the data behind the data, but then I am a geek number cruncher at times. I read economics for fun


Lisztomania 67M
8909 posts
11/16/2017 11:19 am

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    Go sit in the Lulu corner with those who want to be obtuse.

    Do you watch Maddow or Hannity to watch them sing and dance, or do you want to hear opinion journalism?

    Do you want your taxpayer dollars spent on Shakespeare plays performed by Members of Congress, instead of them working on legislation ?

    Would you have wanted Obama to spend most of his time giving advice to NBA coaches, or being President ?
    Every President has been criticized for playing golf. Not since Ike, has the media spent so much time on a President's golf game as they have on Trump's.
    Why? Other than just having something to criticize, they think he should be doing President tasks, not playing golf. They demonstrate my point.
The Democratic senators are indeed putting on a Shakespearian play -- Julius Caesar!


sparkleflit 70F
1518 posts
11/16/2017 12:15 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I am also a retired Wal-Mart retail worker/cashier. I have been to Washington DC as an activist and lobbyist. I have talked to Senators and Congressional Representatives about health care, prison reform, the drug problem in West Virginia, prison sentencing reform, environmental issues and foreign affairs. The prospective from a working class constituent is valuable as someone from a more "lofty" station in life. Our contribution to society is just as valuable if not more so than some of the more supercilious foreigners.
That was meant to be ironic.......Turning Maisie's logic around.....You know,
when someone points a finger, you point one back at them. I'm not any smarter or more educated than you or Maisie and I have had a lot of menial labour jobs in my life.......

What I was trying to say is that Maisie has written a blog here that personally insults a bunch of people because they don't play by Maisie's rules of order......A late-night host/comedian who has the life experience of having a new baby with life-threatening medical issues requiring very expensive surgery and care and therefor has a very immediate and strong emotional response to a health-care bill that would prevent less- fortunate parents to afford medical care for their children.......He has empathy and the platform to make his appeal to a large audience.........But Maisie thinks that is wrong, that he claims he is an medical expert and has no business remarking on it.......As Maisie knows, because I have provided that information in the past, The mother of his baby, his wife, is one of the main writers on the show and they have been working together with the staff for 15 years..........But Maisie thinks that's immaterial, because she sees herself as arbiter of what comedians should do and say.....even though, as far as I know, Maisie has never worked in TV production............

I thought I could make my views known with a short, ironic comment, but irony is apparently in short supply among Maisie's tail-waggers.

Maisie declares that my first comment was a personal insult instead of a comment on the content of the blog. Thing is, this blog, as most of Maisie's blogs, is nothing but a series of personal insults........My comment was an attempt to turn Maisie's insulting, judgemental rhetoric around in an attempt to illustrate to her and her waggers, that the premise and the content were just yet another vacuous hatchet job on those she deems "The Other.".........


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/16/2017 4:05 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    That was meant to be ironic.......Turning Maisie's logic around.....You know,
    when someone points a finger, you point one back at them. I'm not any smarter or more educated than you or Maisie and I have had a lot of menial labour jobs in my life.......

    What I was trying to say is that Maisie has written a blog here that personally insults a bunch of people because they don't play by Maisie's rules of order......A late-night host/comedian who has the life experience of having a new baby with life-threatening medical issues requiring very expensive surgery and care and therefor has a very immediate and strong emotional response to a health-care bill that would prevent less- fortunate parents to afford medical care for their children.......He has empathy and the platform to make his appeal to a large audience.........But Maisie thinks that is wrong, that he claims he is an medical expert and has no business remarking on it.......As Maisie knows, because I have provided that information in the past, The mother of his baby, his wife, is one of the main writers on the show and they have been working together with the staff for 15 years..........But Maisie thinks that's immaterial, because she sees herself as arbiter of what comedians should do and say.....even though, as far as I know, Maisie has never worked in TV production............

    I thought I could make my views known with a short, ironic comment, but irony is apparently in short supply among Maisie's tail-waggers.

    Maisie declares that my first comment was a personal insult instead of a comment on the content of the blog. Thing is, this blog, as most of Maisie's blogs, is nothing but a series of personal insults........My comment was an attempt to turn Maisie's insulting, judgemental rhetoric around in an attempt to illustrate to her and her waggers, that the premise and the content were just yet another vacuous hatchet job on those she deems "The Other.".........
a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?

Your first comment above. I rest my case. No comment on the substance of the blog, or an offering of an alternate opinion. We can all read.


jiminycricket1 67M
8159 posts
11/17/2017 3:23 am

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    Go sit in the Lulu corner with those who want to be obtuse.

    Do you watch Maddow or Hannity to watch them sing and dance, or do you want to hear opinion journalism?

    Do you want your taxpayer dollars spent on Shakespeare plays performed by Members of Congress, instead of them working on legislation ?

    Would you have wanted Obama to spend most of his time giving advice to NBA coaches, or being President ?
    Every President has been criticized for playing golf. Not since Ike, has the media spent so much time on a President's golf game as they have on Trump's.
    Why? Other than just having something to criticize, they think he should be doing President tasks, not playing golf. They demonstrate my point.
Well you didn't answer my question.

I listen to everybody.. everybody that chooses to speak., no matter their walk in life
For me it's not about agreement... It's about understanding

I do have a prejudice, that I constantly invoke... It's about hypocrisy. Everything anybody says. No matter their walk in life... I agree with them saying it, as long as they walk the walk.

So today, Trump tweeted about Franken.. I don't have a problem with the tweet, he can say it... but really, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling. For me, it wasn't about what he said...It was that he had the gall to say it. That his hypocrisy about it, is just amazing, It's beyond my comprehension that other people don't comprehend it.


Maisie2013 66F
16204 posts
11/17/2017 6:43 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Well you didn't answer my question.

    I listen to everybody.. everybody that chooses to speak., no matter their walk in life
    For me it's not about agreement... It's about understanding

    I do have a prejudice, that I constantly invoke... It's about hypocrisy. Everything anybody says. No matter their walk in life... I agree with them saying it, as long as they walk the walk.

    So today, Trump tweeted about Franken.. I don't have a problem with the tweet, he can say it... but really, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling. For me, it wasn't about what he said...It was that he had the gall to say it. That his hypocrisy about it, is just amazing, It's beyond my comprehension that other people don't comprehend it.
How many pictures are there of Trump fondling a sleeping woman?


DanDee1952 65M
18073 posts
11/17/2017 1:56 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    How many pictures are there of Trump fondling a sleeping woman?
what Jiminy can't grasp is that Trump has been accused of walking into the Miss America dressing room unannounced. Trump was caught on tape saying that men of power can grab a p*ssy, he never said that he did, but somehow he is a sexual predator

Franken on the other hand forced a kiss on her, took the photo we see, but who knows what else he did while she was asleep.

Somehow he conflates the two with equal gravitas


starwomyn 64F
5010 posts
11/20/2017 1:57 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You're right about that.....people should stick to what they know.......I mean,
    .....a semi-retired Walmart shelf-wrangler on a senior's site constantly spouting political opinion.......who would think she knew anything that isn't available to any Tom, Dick or Harriet?
The Senior Blogging Site is an appropriate place to express political views regardless of occupation. I love country music and Charlie Daniel's political views didn't stop me from going to his concert but if he wants to sing love songs to Trump - he would be better off going to a Trump rally instead of at a concert paying customers. Needless to say, if I am zoning products on a Wal-Mart shelf, that is not the time to wear a pink hat nor would I wear that hat at the DAR Continental Congress.

JOY Unconfined