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bijou624

7/13/2018 11:20 am

It just seems strange to have that hearing at all with all the other important matters they could be investigating but are not investigating. None of the Repubs even let Strzok finish a sentence so there really was no point in asking him questions at all. One similarity Strzok has to Hillary is that they smile and grin all the time and it makes them look smug or arrogant. What is a real mystery is how on earth did Strzok manage to get any work done at all when he was sending hundreds of personal text messages a week???


MrsJoe 76F
17367 posts
7/13/2018 6:41 pm

I didn't get to watch much of his testimony, but in what I did see, his body language and facial expressions gave me the impression that he, like Comey, believed he did no wrong and was the god-like savior of the country in what he did. The difference is that Strozk seemed to lose his cool much easier than Comey did.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Rentier1

7/14/2018 5:40 am

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I agree.

Mango should fire anyone who doesn't declare personal loyalty to him.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/14/2018 10:12 am

How does one use words to paint a picture to a blind man? It's very difficult and beyond my capability.

I have said it before.. I'm not as concern about the WHAT... as I am the HOW..

It's has nothing to do with what the sides are, or what the ideology is..

The HOW of this hearing destroyed any hope of understanding the WHAT of it.

The least important person at that hearing was Strzok.. the least important things said, were said by Strzok....Questions were simply asked and answered in their own question. No answer required..
It was an ""Inquisition" and McCarthyism.. Used to create a truth.... instead of discovering a truth.

Now the truth.. what does "We will stop it" mean... when it was not stopped?
Strzok, the FBI and the DOJ.. work within the parameters of how they see themselves and how they see "US"....... for them there are lines not to be crossed....
The greatest loss Trump has given US ..is the potential loss of those parameters...For it is certainly my opinion.. That if THEY could go back in time..Those parameters which prevented them from "stopping it" would no longer exist...
Trump would NEVER have been elected.... And America..would NEVER be able to be "Great Again".. Russian interference would have seemed like small potatoes..
For if they choose to fight fire.. with fire.. They would have "stopped it", and destroyed Trump...... but they would have burned US all to hell..

So I fight on.. with the knowledge that..... "WE will stop it".. and then not "stopping it". is what this country is about...I will fight on to prevent the destructive "HOW" to stop it... in the name of WHAT you are stopping.
Many Trump supporters can't see it.....For they, like Trump,.. have no parameters.
And see others... as not having them either..Let me assure you.. they exists..
Don't be fooled by Trump.....That the parameters don't exist... When he knows they do.. And with that knowledge, uses it... against those who have it


dusty117 73M

7/14/2018 2:02 pm

I don't watch the government controlled television station … was Strzok charged with a crime?

I did catch the some of the story on PBS though … Strzok said his attitude in the emails was sparked by then-candidate Trump's behavior, including his “disgusting” insult aimed at the family of a fallen U.S. soldier … referring to the Kahn Gold Star Family.

Did the Great Government Controlled TV Station play that part for you?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/14/2018 4:06 pm

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Just because you refuse to understand doesn't mean it's not understandable..

I would ask... if you know the different between the WHAT and the HOW?

Like... what you think and how you think about it?.. or what you do, and how you go about doing it..
I don't choose sides.. the hearing was a sham.. from both sides.. Their was NO truth to be gotten.. Just someone's Truth to be told..

AS I have said.. you can't understand it.. because you can't separate the How from the WHAT. "Any HOW".. it's just the same as the WHAT.
And because if you choose to be fricken idiot.. YOU are ONE!


Rentier1

7/15/2018 7:34 am

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Pot, kettle.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/15/2018 9:48 am

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There no debate.. I am not debating it..

There is a WHAT and there is a HOW....that's all I'm saying.. and you think it's a debate. I say the WHAT doesn't matter to ME.. just the HOW....
But you can't accept that.. You can't understand that...

I believe YOU, maisie and Litzt, understand it all too well....You understand that the HOW....with integrity and morals.. may not get you the WHAT.. You can not accept that...

To me it's clear and concise... To you, the WHAT matters....When to me, just the HOW matters .. We will NEVER see eye to eye about it....but saying you don't understand, or that it's confusing... is just a confirmation...You don't care about the HOW.

When the Bible is ALL about the HOW.... You deny the Bible, by replacing the HOW with the WHAT....It's simply an unbelievable hypocrisy...

If Trump gets you what you want.. then how he does it... doesn't matter to YOU..

You think I'm expressing the right or wrong of it......I am NOT......I am not the one to judge the right or wrong of it... YOU ARE.. IN YOUR OWN MIND....Just don't deny.. the judgement you make.. Just like The WHAT doesn't matter to me.. so it is that WHAT as it applies to the right or wrong of it, doesn't matter.....JUST THE HOW

It's a legitimate human trait to do the wrong thing to get the right result.. I don't deny that......I am not even trying to convince you otherwise..... I am jsut trying to get you to see it, and accept it..
But you see.. they way i see it.. If WE all do the wrong thing to get our own right results.. Then, overall, we will NEVER get the RIGHT result..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/15/2018 10:40 am

You think.. I agree with Leaf about His WHAT and HOW... I do not agree. I fear where his HOW could lead.. I fear Liberals will learn the WRONG lessons... about the HOW ...from YOU folks.. And decide getting what they want is more important.... than the how they "get it"

But here's the rub.. Leaf knows the difference and weighs and accepts.. His wrong HOW.. is worth the results he seeks.... It not a pattern for him.. It a choice. a specific choice of a specific action.....It's not his modus operendi...Like it is with some "folks".

Trump has lived his entire life.. doing the wrong things.. and turning it into HIS right result. It now ingrained in him.. It's been so successful, Now, to the extent nothing else matters. Trump can not see any other door to open..

My fear for Leaf.. and America.. is that WE could become that.. ..Because, It is my belief...When this is all over.... that Leaf's success and support... will breed it's own rightness. That dooming "you folks".. may only doom ourselves.

Let me get specific about the HOW of it......We can easily defeat you folks (it's going happen regardless).. all we have to do is get down and dirty with you.. Like Strzok.. could have, but he didn't, get down and dirty (he probably now regrets that)....... So the What of it, doesn't really matter...It's the HOW of it... if we put it all on the line ..and accept the possibility, like Strzok, that we MAY lose....
But the right result can only happen..... not if we get down and dirty......
But if WE RISE above "YOU FOLKS"

And the only thing that REALLY matters is the HOW.


Rentier1

7/15/2018 10:44 am

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I'm not.
I can't defend what I don't understand.


dusty117 73M

7/15/2018 2:21 pm

Strzok came out looking like a Patriot, not a victim … slamming Trump for his disgusting disrespect of the Kahn Gold Star Family.

As for great TV … a good director would have seen that Trey Gowdy needed a high chair pillow ..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/16/2018 1:54 pm

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Your ability to reason.. is beyond nim-com-poopie-ness

All the people you accuse of sabotaging Trump....what do you think they were doing prior to the election....to want to sabotage him.... What did they know..that you or I didn't know?

Why didn't they sabotage him?

There are only two choices......They could not reveal publicly an ongoing investigation.. they were DUTY BOUND not to do that.

Or the ongoing investigating was totally fabricated.. after the election.

I think you need to tell.. Paupodopolus, Manaford, Gates, Flynn, and 31 others including Russian.. That it is all just TRUMP-ED up indictments
Let's not forget those who pleaded guilty to the Trump-ed up charges already..
Who are now singing.. because they no longer are Trump-petted...

CAN'T YOU HEAR IT?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/16/2018 2:31 pm

Here's the irony...

I believe by the emails.. Strzok send...... that he had a personal struggle.. of revealing the information he had or if the stronger hand was his Duty to the FBI..
But the truth.. he, unlike Trump, Never knew if he had the Power to do it, and It wasn't the way he EVER operated..

His choose his Duty....

The irony of that.......is doing his duty......is his punishment....

You think you can malign him? You think it matters ..what you do to him?

Put yourself in his shoes.......He knows NOW he made the wrong CHOICE.
All the negativism that would have happened had he NOT done his duty... Happened anyway.
so he might as well have spilt the beans..
You can't hurt him anymore....than he hurts himself with that knowledge...He's questioning his own integrity, and the integrity of this country.. which is ALL he's ever had....and You folks, and the Republican oversight committee.. are just Assholes.......I'm sure he's angry about it .. I would be too.

Strzok..didn't destroy his ability to NOW be an effective FBI top level agent. Doesn't matter NOW if he stays with the FBI or not...He's damaged goods.. not self damage.. but ideologically damaged. You asshole destroyed it.. Like you destroy everything that gets in your way..Like you are destroying this country to try and "save it".


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/16/2018 2:57 pm

You surround the Castle of Hell
Storming the walls to do well
Gather ye all and all ye hate
Make war against the Devil's gate

To save within those who are damn
You bring forth the battering ram
The might to break down the door
To redeem yourself and so much more

The futility is in banging one's head
Not about doors, but where you are led
When your only battle is your battle within
Just knock on the door
They'll let you in.


dusty117 73M

7/16/2018 4:03 pm

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You don't know about Strzok's reference to the Kahn Gold Star Family because Sean Hannity doesn't want you to know about it. PBS didn't say it … THEY PLAYED THE VIDEO … you missed it.

And what's up .. you're going to hide behind Hillary Clinton forever? In fact Trump is the one who" came out looking like the arrogant ass he is" … insulting Veterans, POWs, Gold Star Families, Allies and partners, lying about where he gets his money.

Trump's a fraud … the FBI knows it and Republicans politicians know it. Republican cowards are afraid of the Trump base. That's what this is about...