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brightsmile003B 84F
585 posts
7/28/2018 7:28 am
We need to let our hearts feel the pain of others.

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Hawkslayer 88M
13326 posts
7/28/2018 7:56 am

Good read, brightsmile, I enjoyed it. .But I firmly believe that the words "politician" and "honesty" do NOT belong in the same sentence, So, that is all I have to say on this matter.

It only takes a drop of ink to make a million people think. There are many stories.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 10:16 am

    Quoting  :

Hello Leaf...Thank you for your input. My intent is not to make this blog political and this lady used her frustration at Trump supporters to make her point. She listened to Van Jones and saw things differently.

I heard Van jones say...."Stop the labeling and start the discussion" which truly changed my way of thinking about people. I "sorry to say" use labels also. I called Hiram a Racist and dismissed him......he probably called me the N word and dismissed me also. .lol. He is probably like some of the men that she talked about... hurt by things over which they feel they have no control. If Hiram and I had not labeled each other and had a little empathy for each other then we could have had a discussion that might have been more positive.

What I am trying to say is that I will stop putting labels on folk and try to have a discussion with them if I can. I think the world would be a better place if we all did.

Thanks for your input and being able to feel empathy for others....friend Leaf.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 10:24 am

    Quoting Hawkslayer:
    Good read, brightsmile, I enjoyed it. .But I firmly believe that the words "politician" and "honesty" do NOT belong in the same sentence, So, that is all I have to say on this matter.
Hello Alfie.....Thank you for your input. I am glad that you enjoyed it. I agree with you absolutely. I think all politicians are liars. I say that because they have to say what ever the voters want to hear in order for us to vote for them. There is no way they will please all of us in this country. I guess it is the nature of the beast....politics.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/28/2018 10:54 am

Every time I listen to Van Jones I marvel at his patience with Human Beings..........I agree that we need more empathy, but ..........


Rocketship 79F
18564 posts
7/28/2018 11:46 am

Van Jones is a wise man!! Thanks for sharing this.


Hawkslayer 88M
13326 posts
7/28/2018 12:24 pm

    Quoting  :

The simple answer to your question is this: "I stopped listening to them many, many years ago, so many years that I really can't remember how many."

It only takes a drop of ink to make a million people think. There are many stories.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 1:45 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Every time I listen to Van Jones I marvel at his patience with Human Beings..........I agree that we need more empathy, but ..........
Hello Sparkleflit....Thanks for your input and I was amazed when I heard him for the first time. When I heard him I decided that I needed to make an effort to listen more and try to understand what another person is going through.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 1:54 pm

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Hello Leaf......You did make a great case for empathy. I did not misunderstand I knew that you were not talking politics but since you were the first responder to the blog ,I wanted everyone to know that even though that cut and paste was about Trump voters....I was sharing it because of what I had learned from Van jones. I am not as good at expressing myself with words as you and some of the other bloggers are. I am better expressing my views through paintings.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 2:06 pm

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Hello Hiram..........I am so sorry that you misunderstood what I was explaining to leaf. I was explaining how in the past I have labeled and dismissed people also. I agree you have also been cordial and pleasant to me as I have to you. I called you a racist because of the hateful bigoted and racist blogs that you write sometime here.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 4:33 pm

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Hi Leaf...........I believe you are right that politicians are public servants or should be however I guess I have just met too many of the "salesman" types.

In the future, I am going to make an effort to listen to what they are saying and try to have empathy and perhaps I can change my mind about all of them being liars.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/28/2018 4:36 pm

    Quoting Rocketship:
    Van Jones is a wise man!! Thanks for sharing this.
Hello Rocketship...Thanks for stopping by. I recently had the pleasure of listening to him and I was amazed. He seems to have a genuine love and respect for all people. He made me want to do better and I am.


Rentier1

7/28/2018 9:47 pm

I sympathize with those in that position.

However, I still fail to understand how they could possibly think that a con artist like the Mango Mussolini would do anything to address their concerns.

Perhaps nobody can.

But I would have thought it more likely that the progressive elements still left in the Democratic party would do something.

Republicans, and especially Trump, look out for the already wealthy.
Trump's much vaunted tax cuts are ample evidence of that.

It really seems to me that these people cut off their noses to spite their faces.


Seattlechick8 67F

7/28/2018 11:32 pm

Great Article Bright-I Am A Deeply Conservative Woman Who
Likes Van Jones Very Much-I Did Vote For Trump And Many Times
Have Had To Rethink Why ? I Guess Because Hill And Bernie We’re Not who
I Wanted AND I didn’t Want To Throw Away My Vote
This Nation NeedsMuch Healing And Coming Together
I Pray The Dialogue To Get There Begins Soon
P/S——Ignore Hank l-So Many Of Us Do lol


1gasilverhead2 83M
4003 posts
7/29/2018 5:02 am

Being nice to someone you have an issue with doesn't mean you are fake...it means when you were raised you were taught how to be polite.

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The beginning of life, conception..


brightsmile003B 84F

7/29/2018 6:41 am

    Quoting Rentier1:
    I sympathize with those in that position.

    However, I still fail to understand how they could possibly think that a con artist like the Mango Mussolini would do anything to address their concerns.

    Perhaps nobody can.

    But I would have thought it more likely that the progressive elements still left in the Democratic party would do something.

    Republicans, and especially Trump, look out for the already wealthy.
    Trump's much vaunted tax cuts are ample evidence of that.

    It really seems to me that these people cut off their noses to spite their faces.
Hello Rentier.............Thank you so much for your input but you went political. The point is.........We need to stop labeling folk and try to understand and have empathy for another persons walk in life. I am going to change my ways because of what Van Jones said. I put this blog up so that other folk might think of doing the same.

Example.........I now know that you do not make a joke of everything and I learned that by talking with you and hearing that from you........not by putting a label on you and dismissing you as a person that I should not take serious.I am glad that I did because now we can talk to each other as online friends.


brightsmile003B 84F

7/29/2018 6:44 am

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Hello Panther........Thanks for your input and what you said to him is very true.


bijou624

7/29/2018 6:53 am

You can ask anyone who knows me but I've always had such empathy and sympathy for anyone with problems as I have many myself. But since Trump was elected I find myself basically hating someone for the first time in my life, and I find myself hurling swear words at him when he's on t.v. It is so obvious to me that Trump is a lying and dangerous con man and I can't help but think that his supporters must be really gullible and not too smart if they can't see Trump for who he is, a person who could not care less about anyone but himself. Until his supporters see this too, I'll try to be more forgiving and understanding of them but I honestly don't see this happening.


Rentier1

7/29/2018 7:02 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    You can ask anyone who knows me but I've always had such empathy and sympathy for anyone with problems as I have many myself. But since Trump was elected I find myself basically hating someone for the first time in my life, and I find myself hurling swear words at him when he's on t.v. It is so obvious to me that Trump is a lying and dangerous con man and I can't help but think that his supporters must be really gullible and not too smart if they can't see Trump for who he is, a person who could not care less about anyone but himself. Until his supporters see this too, I'll try to be more forgiving and understanding of them but I honestly don't see this happening.
Stop being political!


brightsmile003B 84F

7/29/2018 7:02 am

    Quoting Seattlechick8:
    Great Article Bright-I Am A Deeply Conservative Woman Who
    Likes Van Jones Very Much-I Did Vote For Trump And Many Times
    Have Had To Rethink Why ? I Guess Because Hill And Bernie We’re Not who
    I Wanted AND I didn’t Want To Throw Away My Vote
    This Nation NeedsMuch Healing And Coming Together
    I Pray The Dialogue To Get There Begins Soon
    P/S——Ignore Hank l-So Many Of Us Do lol
Hello Seattlechick............Thank you so much for sharing this because some folk have said that Trump voters were all racist which is not true and you just proved it.

To be real honest I believed that too until I heard the comedian Sinbad say that not all Trump voters were racist last year. He said a lot of them were like you and were just tired of the way things were and wanted a change. I think the dialogue has already begun Seattlechick with you and I. I have learned from what you said and know that by listening and talking to each other without labels we can heal our country. Who knows Seattle it could be starting with you and I. I would love to talk with you about this more are you on Fbook?


brightsmile003B 84F

7/29/2018 7:11 am

    Quoting 1gasilverhead2:
    Being nice to someone you have an issue with doesn't mean you are fake...it means when you were raised you were taught how to be polite.
Hello 1Gas.....Thanks for stopping by and as always I appreciate your words of wisdom. I was raised to be polite and kind and I hope I have always shown that side of myself to you and others here.


MrsJoe 76F
17381 posts
7/29/2018 7:45 am

    Quoting brightsmile003B:
    Hello Seattlechick............Thank you so much for sharing this because some folk have said that Trump voters were all racist which is not true and you just proved it.

    To be real honest I believed that too until I heard the comedian Sinbad say that not all Trump voters were racist last year. He said a lot of them were like you and were just tired of the way things were and wanted a change. I think the dialogue has already begun Seattlechick with you and I. I have learned from what you said and know that by listening and talking to each other without labels we can heal our country. Who knows Seattle it could be starting with you and I. I would love to talk with you about this more are you on Fbook?
Saying that all Trump voters are racist is just an anti-Trump propaganda ploy, and I'm afraid that there are folks who believe it. I don't think you do. Mrjoe and I are both Trump voters, and you know us well enough to know that we aren't.
People need to get back to days gone by when they could visit with each other, talk to (not about) each other about lots of topics, enjoy each other's company and share a cup of coffee or meal............. or just a computer conversation if face to face isn't possible. When people helped people because it was the right thing to do, not because the government took it from us and gave it to whomever it chose.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
7/29/2018 7:45 am

Great article. I totally understand why some folks supported Trump as a working class person in West Virginia. I've seen young people working two crappy jobs to support their families, still can't make ends meet and get slapped around by bureaucracy . There was no faith that government as usual was not working for them.

I have actually been in the Senate and Congressional buildings talking to our elected officials or the staff that present them. It is important to be able to listen and understand both sides of an issue in order to find resolutions.

I have been called a libtard and snowflake more than once and the minute someone starts name calling, I walk away. It makes them appear ignorant. Why would I want to act like them and start name-calling someone has different views. It is better to stick to the issues.


Abracadabra


MrsJoe 76F
17381 posts
7/29/2018 7:50 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Great article. I totally understand why some folks supported Trump as a working class person in West Virginia. I've seen young people working two crappy jobs to support their families, still can't make ends meet and get slapped around by bureaucracy . There was no faith that government as usual was not working for them.

    I have actually been in the Senate and Congressional buildings talking to our elected officials or the staff that present them. It is important to be able to listen and understand both sides of an issue in order to find resolutions.

    I have been called a libtard and snowflake more than once and the minute someone starts name calling, I walk away. It makes them appear ignorant. Why would I want to act like them and start name-calling someone has different views. It is better to stick to the issues.
Hi Star! I would never call you a libtard or snowflake..... and you and I are examples of people on totally different sides of some issues, who can get beyond that and still communicate with respect and even affection. As for names, I might say you are a flake, but you are my favorite flake!

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Rentier1

7/29/2018 8:20 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Saying that all Trump voters are racist is just an anti-Trump propaganda ploy, and I'm afraid that there are folks who believe it. I don't think you do. Mrjoe and I are both Trump voters, and you know us well enough to know that we aren't.
    People need to get back to days gone by when they could visit with each other, talk to (not about) each other about lots of topics, enjoy each other's company and share a cup of coffee or meal............. or just a computer conversation if face to face isn't possible. When people helped people because it was the right thing to do, not because the government took it from us and gave it to whomever it chose.
I would never claim all of them are racist.

But all of them seem to able to ignore and excuse serious defects in his personal life and business track record.

And I have serious doubts about their ability to think critically.

A Missouri nail factory just had to lay off staff because of Mango's steel tariffs. But the Trumpies working there still have faith, and think he is going to pull a rabbit out of a hat. Reality seems not to matter with his supporters.

I can understand why Americans are unhappy with the current system.

But the answer is to overhaul campaign funding, and not elect some clown who is only out to satisfy his own ego.


MrsJoe 76F
17381 posts
7/29/2018 8:41 am

    Quoting Rentier1:
    I would never claim all of them are racist.

    But all of them seem to able to ignore and excuse serious defects in his personal life and business track record.

    And I have serious doubts about their ability to think critically.

    A Missouri nail factory just had to lay off staff because of Mango's steel tariffs. But the Trumpies working there still have faith, and think he is going to pull a rabbit out of a hat. Reality seems not to matter with his supporters.

    I can understand why Americans are unhappy with the current system.

    But the answer is to overhaul campaign funding, and not elect some clown who is only out to satisfy his own ego.
Bike, in spite of your frequent satirical and snide comments, I have always thought you were a serious thinking fella. This response just solidifies my opinion of you. Now that I've said that......
"I would never claim all of them are racist. But all of them seem to able to ignore and excuse serious defects in his personal life and business track record. And I have serious doubts about their ability to think critically." I would have said the same thing about Obama voters. He got a vote in this house in his first election, but not his second one, because of his policies, actions, and words.
We will have to wait and see about Trump's second election. I think most of his voters realized there would be rocky times, but expect it to eventually turn out ok. Anytime you take actions to fix problems, there are rough times. As I said, we will see what it looks like in a couple of years.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.